Fact Checking The March Against Monsanto Protesters – Final Thoughts

Over the past few years, I have been attending March Against Monsanto protests in the UK in an attempt to gain an insight into why so many people are against this one company in particular. It became apparent very early on, whilst attending these protests, that the majority of people in attendance were not there to protest against the agriculture company Monsanto, but instead to protest against genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in general. As someone who believes that GMOs have huge potential in helping to alleviate world hunger and improve standards of living on our planet, I was curious to hear what criticisms people had of this broad area of science. I was surprised to find that nearly all of the criticisms consisted of lies, half truths, misconceptions, and flat out ignorance. I decided to make a series of videos fact-checking some of the more convincing arguments made at these events in order to undo some of the damages I believe these people to be doing. This is my final thought on making these videos

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Fact Checking March Against Monsanto Protesters
Fact Checking March Against Monsanto Protesters
The League of Nerds #027 – March Against Monsanto
#027 – March Against Monsanto
The League of Nerds #127 – Conflict of Interest in IARC Report
#127 – Conflict of Interest in IARC Report
Is Glyphosate “Probably Carcinogenic to Humans” ?
Is Glyphosate “Probably Carcinogenic to Humans” ?
Bad science in the paper ‘Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant GM maize’
Bad science in the paper ‘Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant GM maize’

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30 thoughts on “Fact Checking The March Against Monsanto Protesters – Final Thoughts

  1. Lara potocnik November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    One basic argument pro GMO:

    Logic, They are here for more than 30 years already and I don't see most Americans walking around with huge tumors and what not.

  2. purplesnails22 November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    HEY… what have you got against blue hair? =p

  3. Bluesky Painting November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    I absolutely love that shirt. Does anyone know where I can get one?

  4. Walter Stoermer November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    I have never sided with those people, and I hate that they are getting so much traction. I think that it is the internet that allows this rubish to spread.

  5. D. Fruitlantis November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Researchers out of Norway described the amount of pesticide residues found in GMO soy as high compared to the maximum allowable residue levels. The legal limit for glyphosate in foods had been set at 0.1-0.2 mg/kg; so, these exceed the legal limits by an average of about 2000%, whereas organic and conventional non-GMO soy both had none.So, what did Monsanto do? Did the industry ditch the whole GMO thing, go back to using fewer pesticides so that residue levels wouldn’t be so high? Or, they could just change the definition of high. What if they could get authorities to raise the maximum residue level from 0.1 or 0.2 up to 20? Then the residue levels won’t look so high anymore. And this is exactly what they did. The acceptance level of glyphosate in food and animal feed has been increased by authorities in countries that use Roundup-Ready GM crops. In Brazil, they went up to ten, and the U.S. and Europe now accept up to 20. In all of these cases, the maximum residue level values appear to have been adjusted, not based on new evidence indicating glyphosate toxicity was less than previously understood, but pragmatically in response to actual observed increases in the content of residues in GMO soybeans—otherwise it wouldn’t be legal to sell the stuff.What evidence do we have, though, that these kinds of residues are harmful? For 12 years, we’ve heard that Roundup interferes with embryonic development, but that study was about sea urchin embryos. For 14 years, we heard that Roundup may disrupt hormones, but that’s in mouse testicles.Blogs will dish about concerning new studies implicating Roundup in male fertility, but if we look at the study, it’s about rat testicles. Some blogs cite studies with disturbing titles like “prepubertal exposure alters testosterone levels and testicular shape,” but they’re talking about puberty in rats, though that doesn’t make as catchy a blog title.Why not use human tissue? Women are having babies every day—why not just experiment on human placentas, which would otherwise just get thrown away? In 2005, researchers did just that. And despite all the negative effects in rodents, glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup didn’t seem to have much of a toxic effect on human cells even at high doses, or have much effect on a hormone regulating enzyme, leading Monsanto-funded reviewers to conclude that regardless of what hazards might be alleged based on animal studies, “glyphosate is not anticipated to produce adverse developmental and reproductive effects in humans.”But pure glyphosate isn’t sprayed on crops, Roundup is, which contains a variety of adjuvants and surfactants meant to help the glyphosate penetrate into tissues. And indeed, when the study was repeated with what’s actually sprayed on GMO crops, there were toxic and hormonal effects even at doses smaller than the 1 or 2% concentration that’s used out on the fields.Similar results were found for other major pesticides. It took until 2014, but eight out of nine pesticide formulations tested were up to one thousand times more toxic than their so-called active ingredients. So, when we just test the isolated chemicals, we may not get the whole story. Roundup was found to be 100 times more toxic than glyphosate itself. Moreover, Roundup turned out to be among the most toxic pesticides they tested. It’s commonly believed that Roundup is among the safest, though, an idea spread by Monsanto, the manufacturer.Glyphosate is safe for humans, vivisection is a waste of time but as ever Monsanto, or should we say Bayer, are producing/promoting harmful substances.Citations on request…

  6. pony is lost November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    hi myles! my name is Jerry just found your channel. a few questions to help aid me in my own research. is there a way to see if a peer reviewed paper has been debunked? im working on a similar video. is there a list of journals i should avoid? thank you for the content and advice.

  7. zicada November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Some critique: I have attempted to use this video as an argument in certain areas of social media that might benefit from knowing more. I find that they can read your "disgust" for the people you are about to critique early, and many decide to turn the video off at that point. Trust me i'm rarely the guy taking this up, but from personal experience, if the ultimate goal is to "spread information", its a good idea to make en extra effort in trying to remain and seem neutral.

    That said; I think you're doing a fantastic job, and I very much hope you keep doing what you're doing, and learning along the way.

  8. Blessed Be November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    This is your words above:
    "nearly all of the criticisms consisted of lies, half truths, misconceptions, and flat out ignorance" who the hell are you to determine that…… wow you corporate sell out.

  9. Monica Smith November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    I understand what you mean about people hating GMOs more than Monsanto, and yes, they should all research what they're marching for. I may dislike the use of GMOs, but, my problems with Monsanto are what I focus on. They have done many things in the past, such as the approval of aspartame (which is a known neurotoxin) and saccharin. The true problem lies with large companies that allow the use of arificial sweeteners, heavily processed foods, and full of chemicals. Monsanto has bought out seed companies to control more of the food industry, taking away our choice of foods.

  10. Timyo praetor November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    George Soros shills.

  11. Jack Craft November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    what would happen if GMO crops that are designed to be pest resistant and are capable of reproduction (through pollination) end up taking over the natural genomes? I mean, GMOs are not a health issue, I know that, but they are intellectual properties. What if in the future Monsanto could charge everyone for royalties over seeds they never purchased from them? Nowadays the levels of contamination are small, but I think this could become a problem in the not so far future.

  12. eddiebruv November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Have you got a leak in the roof or something? That ceiling looks shit.

  13. Laura Kirwan November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    dogging, watercolours and youtubeing a natural cross section of hobbies.

  14. joh joh November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    holy shit i had no idea these people were still around. 1/2 point for persistence i guess.

  15. marty one November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    32:20= well then get out of your bedroom & debate Gary Null on PRN instead of some amateurs in the rain.

  16. JimmyStiffFingers November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Damn hippies.

  17. Barnaby Swift November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Sometimes, when they line it up just right, it looks like your fish are humping in the background.

    P.S. Keep up the good work.

  18. Budred123 November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    I hate Monsanto, but GMO's are fine, the problem with Monsanto is that they use very shady practices with patents, they force everyone to buy seeds from them and bully people who attempt to use their own, on top of that they also have a long history of polluting the environment. The problem isn't really Monsanto though, the problem is that we don't have the necessary regulations in place to effectively prevent companies from doing what Monsanto does.

  19. Ashley D November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Sorry for commenting off-topic (everything to be said about anti-GM people has been said already), but I'm excited for the chemtrail videos in the works – I'm glad they're still in production!

  20. wordgeezer November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    What is your opinion on DDT?

  21. David Riggs November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Every time humans gain another step in power to further manipulate nature, we find in hindsight how little we know about what we're messing with. Being anti-GMO is more of a nature-phillic philosophy than a scientific argument. It's like being against animal testing. Not so much a scientific argument there either. You either respect nature, or you don't.

  22. Robert Fontaine November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Biodiversity, roundup ready crops but likely most importantly the introduction of untested protein chains into people's diets. One could probably conjure up the possibility of Autoimmune disorders, allergies and other odd reactions. But here in North America genetically modified corn, soy, and rapeseed/canola have replaced the nongmo alternatives. The science that these gmo alternatives are safe for human consumption has been misrepresented by Monsanto to governments in Canada, Mexico and india

  23. Sterling Michaels November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    You're reporting and investigating people who are not qualified to speak about the DANGERS of Genetically Engineered Organisms is disingenuous.

    The "Facts" about Monsanto – it's illegal activities – it's forged documentation – it's revolving door in America between the FDA and the Monsanto Executives – are where you SHOULD be focusing and trying to debunk IF you are really an honest, fair and impartial person.

    Just because "Victims" have a bit of information about GMOs (No matter WHO is manufacturing them) does not make them Wrong – only unqualified to speak with authority about these every serious topics.

    I challenge you to research OPENLY AND HONESTLY – All GMO's from Scientists on BOTH sides of the argument and facts as I have and you should find out as I have and MANY other researchers that while we have "Genetically Modified" fruits and vegetables from simple seed, root and branch splicing to create things like the Golden Delicious Apple – it is NOT Genetically Modified which is completely different, Scientifically PROVEN to be cancerous amongst other effects and attack not only our immune system but our neurological system and DNA strands.

    You have chosen a GREAT responsibility and it is up to you to do it with Integrity or to simply post a portfolio of amateur nonsense like most of which is posted on YouTube channels. The choice is clearly yours and yours alone.

  24. falchion49 November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Whenever I encounter one of these characters I ask them how often they've had an Auroch burger. We've been genetically modifying our food supply for millennia.

  25. drradon220 November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    A very interesting video. I really appreciate what you are doing in these videos but, and I don't say this with any antagonism toward you or what you are doing, you seem to be quite naive about these people. I have dealt with this type for more than 30 years – they don't relate to information the same way that a scientist does – many don't understand the difference between a fact-based (reality-based) opinion and an emotion-based opinion. Many of the participants desperately want to be doing something "important" (and therefore be important) but don't have the knowledge base to accomplish something of broad value. In my experience, the leaders are more interested in validating themselves (as being important) by the number of credulous people that they can convince to follow their ideological lead – they don't have facts or knowledge to back up their claims (and are fully aware of that), but that isn't important to them – it's simply the number of people that they can get excited about their issue. If you ask them if they want tens of thousands to go blind due to vitamin A deficiency, they would of course say no; but if you point out that their anti-GMO advocacy is causing that by interfering with distribution of "Golden rice" – they simply refuse to see the connection. You might use the somewhat old fashioned term for them – egoists – their ego is more important than the effects of what they are doing.

  26. Keegan Jay O'Neill November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Came back here after hearing on the radio that Monsanto was merging with Bayer and that roundup was proved by scientists to be cancerous. Had a laugh in my car and now I have to watch that whole video about the analysis of that study again for some reason.

  27. Paul Metcalf November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    You ought to tone down the spambot software praising your video. It's obviously faked along with the ratings. Most people aware of GMO's don't want them, and deeply resent them being forced on us. You shills with strawberry shaped heads are self defeating. Keep up the good work.

  28. Star Drifter November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    As someone who grew up in the '60s and '70s in the US, it has always been my considered opinion that at most protests, less than 3% of the people there even know what they are protesting, let alone have any in depth knowledge of the topic. The other 97% are just there for the party. If your experience is any indication, I think my estimate of 3% may be a little high. Great video.

  29. PlAtNuM ReEkAn November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    watching this dudes videos are a waste of time

  30. EdwardHowton November 28, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    "I think the old adage of 'If it's not broke, don't fix it"
    Okay. Let's go back to harvesting wild grasses for food instead of the genetically-manipulated crops we've been using for thousands of years. When 75% of the human population starves to death and the other 25% are sickly wastrels murdering each other over table scraps to get just that tiny bit extra nutrition in the nearly worthless crap our ancestors used to feed on, THEN MAYBE YOU'LL BOTHER ASKING YOURSELF IF MAYBE IT WAS BROKEN AND THEN WE STARTED FUCKING FIXING IT YOU INSIPID KNOW-NOTHING.

    I'm sorry, but I get really upset when ignorant shitbags advocate for mass genocide. It's a personal failing of mine; when people want other human beings to die by reasons they advocate for that are so fuck-dumb that they're the ones who shouldn't be allowed to live or breed, I get angry. Call me crazy, I know; I thought Hitler was a bad person and that concentration camps were a bad idea. These Montanto-hating idiots disagree and I'm sure they have their reasons, but I just can't give them an inch, because the foot they'd take if I did that wouldn't be enough for them to HANG THEMSELVES ON THEIR OWN FUCKING IDIOCY.

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